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One-on-one with Francesca Hong

On David Crowley's re-entry to the race, on "the establishment," on Tony Evers' legacy, and much more.

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Francesca Hong talks with Dan Shafer in downtown Milwaukee. Photo by Becky Cooper, Hong campaign.

The last two weeks of campaign politics in Wisconsin have been extremely discombobulating, to say the least.

Since Tuesday, July 7, the following has happened:

It’s been a lot.


Amid all of this, so much of the talk seemed to surround a certain candidate in the race, so we wanted to hear from her herself.

What does she think of Crowley rejoining the race, with Evers’ endorsement? Does she see this as “the establishment” lining up against her? What does the term “the establishment” even mean to her?

What does she think of Act 12, the consequential piece of legislation many Crowley supporters were talking about at his campaign re-launch event? What’s happening with her campaign’s vaunted ground game? What is her big picture view of Tony Evers’ time as governor? And if she comes up short in the Aug. 11 primary, would she back whoever the Democratic nominee ends up being?

She answered those questions and more, speaking in downtown Milwaukee.


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Dan Shafer is a journalist from Milwaukee who writes and publishes The Recombobulation Area. He worked with Civic Media from 2024 to 2026. He’s written for The New York Times, The Daily Beast, Heartland Signal, Belt Magazine, WisPolitics, and Milwaukee Record. He previously worked at Seattle Magazine, Seattle Business Magazine, the Milwaukee Business Journal, Milwaukee Magazine, and BizTimes Milwaukee. He’s won 24 Milwaukee Press Club Excellence in Journalism Awards. He’s on Twitter at @DanRShafer.

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