0:00
/

What is actually happening with data centers in Wisconsin? (Part I)

Our two-part conversation covering the on-the-ground reality amid all the noise on the data center issue in Wisconsin. Featuring Andrew Weiland, editor of BizTimes Milwaukee.

The Recombobulation Area is a 19-time 21-TIME! Milwaukee Press Club award-winning opinion column and online publication founded by Milwaukee journalist Dan Shafer.


As we get closer and closer to the Nov. 3 election, there’s been an issue that’s continued to emerge as an especially contentious one – data centers.

Perhaps more specifically, it’s been the type of hyperscale AI data centers that are being proposed or built all over the country, including here in Wisconsin.

From a political standpoint, a broad opposition to these data centers has emerged in a big way, with the most recent polling from the Marquette University Law School showing that 78% of voters say the costs outweigh the benefits for these mega-projects, and only 21% saying the benefits outweigh the costs.

And this issue is one that does not necessarily cut along traditional political lines. While Democratic voters have become the most opposed to data centers, almost two-thirds of Republican voters are against data centers, and about 80% of independent voters are against them, too.

In the months since polling on data centers has tipped this way, we’ve seen politicians up and down the ballot — from the governor’s race to all sorts of Senate and Assembly races — highlight data centers as a top issue, be it on the campaign trail or in attack ads or whatever it might be.

But part of what might be missing from this larger conversation on data centers is a dialogue on what is actually happening in Wisconsin when it comes to data centers.

So, I’m hosting a two-part conversation on this issue with Wisconsin journalists who are covering this from different angles. This is not to advocate for any one side of this — you can probably guess where I stand, frankly — but to better understand a complex and polarizing issue.

For the first part of this conversation, my guest is Andrew Weiland, the editor of BizTimes Milwaukee, an independently-owned and operated business news media company. BizTimes recently published a cover story with the headline, “It’s the Data Center Economy” and he and the rest of the team have been covering this issue closely in a variety of ways.

See some recent headlines here:

Share The Recombobulation Area


Watch this episode on The Recombobulation Area’s YouTube Channel here:


For audio-only listeners, you can find The Recombobulation Area podcast on Spotify and Apple Podcasts. Here’s this episode, embedded below:


For a beat-by-beat breakdown of this episode, see these titles and timestamps below.

  • 00:00 – Intro: Data Centers Become an Election Issue

  • 01:49 – Meet Andrew Weiland of BizTimes Milwaukee

  • 03:20 – How BizTimes Covers the Data Center Boom

  • 04:06 – The Big Projects: Microsoft, Oracle/OpenAI, and Meta

  • 05:41 – The Supply Chain Story Flying Under the Radar

  • 06:26 – “The Data Center Economy”: Bubble and Backlash Risks

  • 08:00 – Wisconsin Winners: Generac’s $8 Billion Amazon Deal

  • 11:10 – Modine’s Cooling Systems and New Racine and Franklin Jobs

  • 13:31 – Secrecy, NDAs, and How Developers Pitch Projects

  • 15:49 – The Reporter’s Side: Breaking Stories Before Deals Are Announced

  • 17:25 – Microsoft Forgoes a $5 Million Mount Pleasant Incentive

  • 18:16 – TIF Explained: Wisconsin’s Main Development Tool

  • 21:17 – Incentives Then and Now: WEDC, Sales Tax Exemptions, and Stadium Comparisons

  • 24:21 – Port Washington and the Question of Job Numbers

  • 25:51 – Why the Backlash: Power Costs, Big Tech Fatigue, and a Physical Footprint

  • 27:27 – Foxconn’s Legacy and Public Distrust

  • 28:59 – How Foxconn Became a Political Deal

  • 31:21 – From Foxconn Land to Data Centers: Power, Water, Noise, and AI Anxiety

  • 33:07 – Closing Thought: Technological Change Rolls On

  • 36:19 – Jurassic Park Warning and Sign-Off


Part II of this data center conversation is coming soon. Don’t miss it!

The Recombobulation Area is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support our work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.


Dan Shafer is an independent journalist from Milwaukee who writes and publishes The Recombobulation Area. He worked with Civic Media from 2024 to 2026. He’s written for The New York Times, The Daily Beast, Heartland Signal, Belt Magazine, WisPolitics, and Milwaukee Record. He previously worked at Seattle Magazine, Seattle Business Magazine, the Milwaukee Business Journal, Milwaukee Magazine, and BizTimes Milwaukee. He’s won 24 Milwaukee Press Club Excellence in Journalism Awards. He’s on Twitter at @DanRShafer.

Subscribe to The Recombobulation newsletter here and follow us on Facebook and Instagram at @ therecombobulationarea.

Already subscribe? Get a gift subscription for a friend.

Give a gift subscription

Part of a group who might want to subscribe together? Get a group subscription for 30% off!

Get 30% off a group subscription

Follow Dan Shafer on Twitter at @DanRShafer, at BlueSky at @danshafer.bsky.social, and on Threads at @danshafer.

Get more from Dan Shafer in the Substack app
Available for iOS and Android

Discussion about this video

User's avatar

Ready for more?