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Wisconsin Politics Group Chat: The debate, the polls, the home stretch

The Group Chat gives their takes on the one and only debate, new polls showing Francesca Hong with a huge lead, and much more.

The Wisconsin Group Chat podcast features Dr. Kristin Lyerly, Pat Kreitlow of UpNorthNews, Kate Duffy of Motherhood for Good, and Dan Shafer of The Recombobulation Area.

Find the previous episode of the Group Chat here.


It’s been another busy week in Wisconsin politics, with the one and only debate happening Tuesday at Marquette University, two new polls showing Francesca Hong opening up a sizable lead over the rest of the field, and a news cycle unfolding at breakneck pace as we get closer and closer to the Aug. 11 partisan primary.

Your friends here at the Wisconsin Politics Group Chat podcast are here to break it all down.

This episode aired live on the Motherhood for Good YouTube Channel, available here:

For a beat-by-beat breakdown, check out our topics and timestamps below:

  • 00:00 — Intro: recapping a big week in Wisconsin politics

  • 00:42 — Debate recap: format and moderators

  • 03:30 — Pat’s debate takeaways

  • 05:04 — The state of the field and Francesca Hong’s lead

  • 06:10 — Why the other candidates didn’t attack the frontrunner

  • 11:12 — What’s next for Barnes, Crowley, Brennan, and Roys

  • 16:26 — The missing healthcare questions

  • 20:14 — Working with the legislature

  • 21:29 — Down-ballot primaries and previewing your ballot

  • 22:26 — Inside the spin room with Dan

  • 28:05 — Comparing the Marquette and State Navigate polls

  • 31:25 — Undecided voters and leaners

  • 33:44 — The candidates as Breakfast Club characters

  • 35:42 — Listener question: how to decide your vote

  • 39:18 — Hong’s campaign style and ground game

  • 44:08 — Looking ahead to the general election

  • 47:43 — The generation gap in the polls

  • 50:51 — Predictions for the final stretch

  • 52:03 — The 3rd Congressional District and 17th Senate District primaries

  • 58:21 — Closing thoughts on unity after the primary

  • 59:54 — Plugs, voting reminders, and wrap-up


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Dan Shafer is a journalist from Milwaukee who writes and publishes The Recombobulation Area. He worked with Civic Media from 2024 to 2026. He’s written for The New York Times, The Daily Beast, Heartland Signal, Belt Magazine, WisPolitics, and Milwaukee Record. He previously worked at Seattle Magazine, Seattle Business Magazine, the Milwaukee Business Journal, Milwaukee Magazine, and BizTimes Milwaukee. He’s won 24 Milwaukee Press Club Excellence in Journalism Awards. He’s on Twitter at @DanRShafer.

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