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Have we lost the plot? Time to recombobulate with Angela Lang

On the latest in the governor's race, what is and isn't "the establishment," Tony Evers' role in the primary, Milwaukee's role in the primary, more.

The Recombobulation Area is a 19-time 21-TIME! Milwaukee Press Club award-winning opinion column and online publication founded by Milwaukee journalist Dan Shafer.


With just days to go before the Aug. 11 primary, we have reached the silly season of the Democratic gubernatorial campaign. So, Angela Lang joined the podcast to ask: Have we lost the plot?

We pondered that questioned, talked about Francesca Hong’s national media appearances (which have some Democrats worried), Angela had a few things to say about David Crowley’s recent comments on “the establishment” as a “slur,” what the term “the establishment” even means anymore, Tony Evers’ involvement in the primary, what was the real turning point in the race, and more.

Plus: As fellow Milwaukeeans, we wondered: Who is going to win Milwaukee County? As folks will often reference, Bernie Sanders won 71 of 72 counties in the 2016 presidential primary in Wisconsin. The one county to go for Hilary Clinton? Milwaukee County. Could results next week show a similar map? Could Crowley carry Milwaukee? Or, could the emergence of Democratic Socialists in the city bring stronger results for Hong?

Much to discuss, folks.

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For a beat-by-beat breakdown, check out our topics and timestamps below:

  • 00:01: Intro, and catching up — last time they podcasted together (May 28th)

  • 01:52: Plug for Dan’s article on down-ballot primary races (Assembly, Senate, congressional)

  • 02:32: “Losing the plot” — old Thanksgiving tweets dominating coverage of Francesca Hong

  • 07:19: Whether Hong should keep doing national media (CNN interview) as the race nationalizes

  • 09:39: What they’d rather be discussing: Trump’s endorsement of Tom Tiffany, policing, ICE and local response

  • 11:44: David Crowley calling “establishment” a slur — the clip and the reaction

  • 15:10: What does “establishment” even mean anymore? — buzzword fatigue and the DSA-vs-establishment framing

  • 21:46: Sara Rodriguez’s campaign finance scandal and exit as the real turning point

  • 23:14: The legislative bill that split Democrats over the summer, and Tony Evers’ involvement in the primary

  • 27:24: Milwaukee’s role in the race — 2016 Bernie Sanders comparison, union endorsements, yard-sign spotting

  • 33:17: The generational divide — Marquette poll numbers among younger voters

  • 35:11: “Blue no matter who” — does it cut both ways for moderates if Hong wins?

  • 37:22: Wisconsin’s ideological extremes — comparison to Sens. Baldwin and Johnson

  • 39:05: Marquette polling: Hong essentially tied with Tiffany in head-to-head matchups

  • 41:35: Roots of polarization — the Scott Walker recall and a decade of gerrymandering

  • 42:28: The independent streak in the Fox Valley and western Wisconsin

  • 43:47: The “attention economy” and Trump-era campaign tactics (wedge issues like Thanksgiving)

  • 46:47: Candidate forums and how much the Democratic field actually agrees on policy

  • 48:20: Sign-off — closing thoughts on primary-season Facebook posts


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Dan Shafer is an independent journalist from Milwaukee who writes and publishes The Recombobulation Area. He worked with Civic Media from 2024 to 2026. He’s written for The New York Times, The Daily Beast, Heartland Signal, Belt Magazine, WisPolitics, and Milwaukee Record. He previously worked at Seattle Magazine, Seattle Business Magazine, the Milwaukee Business Journal, Milwaukee Magazine, and BizTimes Milwaukee. He’s won 24 Milwaukee Press Club Excellence in Journalism Awards. He’s on Twitter at @DanRShafer.

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